"The Clouse Family Murders: A Cold Case with a Miraculous Twist"

In this episode of the PIC True Crime Podcast, we're diving into a chilling cold case with a shocking twist—and for once, it comes with a rare glimmer of hope. Join Mike, Heather, and Bree as they unravel the mysterious disappearance of Harold "Dean" Clouse, his wife Tina, and their baby, Holly. What begins with a young couple vanishing into thin air, possibly entangled in a dangerous religious cult, unfolds into a story that spans decades, involving exhumations, forensic breakthroughs, and a miraculous reunion.

DNA advancements shed light on the tragic fate of Dean and Tina, but the revelation that their baby, Holly, survived in secret for over 40 years adds an unbelievable twist. Cults, DNA genealogists, and a long-lost child—this case has it all. Don't miss this gripping tale of heartbreak, mystery, and a long-awaited miracle in the world of cold case investigations. Subscribe now and stay tuned for more spine-chilling cases that keep you on the edge of your seat!

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Clouse Family Murders (00:00)

Today we have a cold case with a surprising twist and a good twist for a change. Yes, this case is still open so it's not good news all around but let's just say at least some part of this got to see a happy ending. It's about time we got something positive out of one of our cases.

We've had a string of some depressing ones lately. Scott Schurlock might have been the most upbeat one we did, if you can call it a positive case. poor Scott. Never thought we could ever have a baddie that we kind of rooted for.

But today we don't have a hippie Robin Hood who wanted to live out a real life movie. Today we have the disappearance of the Clouse family, possibly at the hands of a crazy religious cult and the remarkable advancements in DNA that finally gave us a hint of hope half a century later,

Even if it doesn't completely explain what happened to the young couple and their baby daughter, little Holly, it's given us a glimmer of hope that this case could finally be solved one day.

Hello everyone. Welcome to or welcome back to the PIC True Crime Podcast. I'm Mike. I'm Heather. And I'm Bree. Let's get into it.

Clouse Family Murders (01:43)

This case took place in 1980 and unfortunately there isn't a whole lot of background on our victims. Harold Dean Clouse and Tina Gail Lynn, both hailed from New Smyrna Beach in sunny Florida.

Clouse went by his middle name, Dean. Most of the time, and his family called him Junior. He had three sisters and a brother, and sadly, Dean's father died in 1966 when Dean was just seven years old.

But despite the tragedy, Donna Casanata seems to have done a good job of raising her kids. All of the family photos show them happy and smiling. But Dean had an unpredictable streak in him. Some say he was naive and he got roped into things easily. But I think he was a teenager in the 1970s who was seeking something bigger.

He dabbled in drugs, but it doesn't look like it was much more than a social experiment for him. There were no arrests and or any serious addictions that came from it. And then at 16, he ran off and joined a cult for a few months.

I mean, it sounds like most teenagers in the 70s, if I'm being honest. And a lot of what Dean got into were phases that everyone his age dipped their toes into at that time.

I wouldn't even go so far as to say that he signed up at a cult.

He just hung around a crazy church for a couple months and got tired of it after a while. Not surprising, a handsome guy like Dean had no shortage of friends and invitations to new social groups.

He just sounded like an enthusiastic youth to me. But back to the cult he hung around for a second. It was called the Jesus People Movement. These guys weren't just a band of traveling Christians spreading the good word with music and instruments.

This was a full on hippie cult, complete with converted school buses, long hair, and a leader that referred to as Lightning Amen.

Lightning Amen? That's a dramatic choice. Well, the leader was born Charles McHugh, and he later changed his name to Lightning Amen. Predictably, McHugh claimed to be the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. The Jesus movement wasn't some back country group. They were huge in the 70s. They heavily influenced what we know to be modern Christian music today.

If it weren't for them, we probably wouldn't have mega churches selling out platinum records like Hillsong Church.

Thousands of people gathered in the fields to listen to them sing as they promoted commune living, going back to more conservative ways of living like it was back in the biblical times.

With their good tunes, they enamored many to follow them. Some members claimed to have supernatural powers.

Some members claim to have supernatural powers and they spoke in tongues. It's just one of those movements that sprang up at the exactly the right time. A lot of young people were still caught up in the hippie era and all of the drugs that came with it.

They wanted more stability, but still with a sense of spiritual awakening that inspired the flower children in the first place.

is all very important to the case. Look, Dean wasn't exactly a full cult member and he wasn't out of the ordinary for hanging around the group. The Jesus movement was huge and lots of people his age attended at least one concert or service,

especially down in Florida where they were well established.

Sure, there were drugs and communes and all of the ingredients that usually drove cults, but they were much more successful because they had their roots in old Christian beliefs with added modern twists that made contemporary music and a leader who claimed to be the son of God.

They were exactly what young people were looking for, the religious upbringing that their parents knew, but just a little more modern, yet still with that dramatic flair that they craved. The Jesus Movement eventually split into many denominations, and it was for the original group that the idea for Christian universities and global reach for large -scale organizations came from.

Dean was a good looking and charismatic guy. He definitely still had friends in the movement and given that there were a lot of offshoots of the main group, it's possible that his old acquaintances were spread far and wide.

All of these side branches went their own way with their own theology,

breeding the kinds of sick cults that left the stain on the era for their outright abuse of their members. These offshoots weren't in the public eye like the Jesus movement was, and they were much more isolated from public scrutiny, and as a result, much more prone to, let's just say, unethical practices.

Dean's family was not happy that he was hanging around with the main group at all, but their dissatisfaction was soon put at ease when Dean returned home after a few months when the traveling and the cool music lost its charm.

The same year he got back was when he met Tina and they hit it off. Meeting Tina changed that wild streak of his.

He was 19 and she was 15 and the two bonded over their loss of their fathers at a young age.

That's a big age gap. Dean would have been hauled to the station if that happened today.

Yeah, but we need to take the times into account here. It really wasn't that big of an age gap back then.

Kids got married younger and women weren't as prone to go to college or wait to have kids. Back then there just wasn't much pressure to get a degree and attain success in your chosen field. Starting a family and studying wasn't nearly as expensive either. Honestly, they weren't out of the norm. Lots of kids went the same route.

Besides, their families were very supportive of the relationship.

Dean's sister was married to Tina's brother, so the families were acquainted with one another, and they knew that the pair were good kids.

Even in our day, this wasn't a big age difference. And I remember my parents being more concerned about whether or not I had practical skills than a law degree. Being handy was a more valuable trait back then. And yes, we'd kill you if you tried to stunt like that.

Just a year into their relationship, they got married in the courthouse. And less than a year after that, they had their daughter, Holly Marie Clouse. Dean was a pretty decent carpenter already, so then when Tina got pregnant at 16, they knew that he'd be able to support them with his line of work.

They weren't exactly living in luxury, but the couple were very happy and they adored their baby girl as both of their families did. Just a few months after Holly's arrival into the world, got a job in Dallas for a construction company.

Dallas was in the middle of a huge housing boom and a guy like Dean with his carpenter skills could get a good foothold in the industry if he got in early.

Dean's mother lent them a car so the financial burden of buying a vehicle in the first few months at least wouldn't be a concern until they got their feet firmly under them.

All of their possessions fit into the small 1978 red AMC Concord when they moved to Lewisville in 1980. The families received letters from them every now and then and everything seemed to be going well for the Clouses

World without cell phones breaks my brain. People were so unconnected back then. I can't imagine waiting a week to hear from my family when I just moved out.

I think you'd survive without a cell phone, but you'd never make it without TikTok or a DoorDash. Ha ha, very funny. Am I right that this long wait between communications affected the case? yes, but we'll get there in a second.

Tina and Dean lived with a cousin for the first few months until they could afford a place of their own. And Tina's letters to her mother included pictures of Holly as well as updates on their milestones and Dean's job.

Tina had albums and scrapbooks where she documented Holly's every move just like any new mother would. You could tell that they were totally smitten with their new baby. They eventually found a place of their own and settled in without any problems. But in October, the letters stopped coming.

At first, the family weren't too concerned. The couple had just moved to a new house. They had a baby under a year old, new job. There was plenty going on to keep them occupied. It was possible that they had just gotten caught up in their busy lives. But two months went by with no word from either of them. Donna, Dean's mother, was becoming concerned enough that she was about to arrange for one of her other children to drive to Lewisville to go and look for them.

They reached the cousin that the couple lived with briefly when they got there, but they hadn't heard from Tina and Dean either. It was now late December of 1980 or early January of 81. No one seems to be able to pinpoint the exact date. Anyway, as Donna was about to take two more drastic steps, she got a phone call to her house's landline. On the other side was a woman who introduced herself as Sister Susan.

Sister Susan informed Donna that she was calling all the way from Los Angeles and that the Clouse family had joined a commune and they were living with them now. When they joined the group, they'd given away all of their earthly possessions, including the AMC Concord, and they were forgoing any contact with their families for the time being. Sister Susan offered to drive the car to Florida for Donna, but only if she were willing to pay $1 ,000 for the effort.

Shoo, that's a steep amount, especially for the 80s. And it gets weirder.

Sister Susan told Donna to meet her at the Daytona Speedway racetrack a few days later to pick up her car in exchange for the money. But here's the kicker, she wanted them to meet at midnight. She didn't agree to do it, did she?

She agreed over the phone, but the next day Donna talked to a few police officers. I think she just wanted to keep contact open between her and Sister Susan.

Donna worked at a restaurant that was frequented by police officers, so you could say that she had friends in the right places. They assured her that this was very suspicious.

But Dean did have a history of making rash decisions, especially concerning religious groups. Donna had no problem believing that part of it. It was Tina and Dean's decision not to contact the family that was hard for her to swallow. Tina especially was very intentional about writing letters and documenting their daughter's development. Dean joining a cult was one thing, but Tina would never give up contact with the family.

So two officers accompanied Donna to the track, fully expecting someone to show up with a phony car or that no one would arrive at all.

But there stood Donna's red car, apparently in pristine condition and inside were three individuals. The people were unusual. They were barefoot and dressed in white long robes. The one who introduced herself is Sister Susan looked to be the oldest of the three. Donna estimated that she was somewhere in her mid thirties and that the other two couldn't have been older than 20.

One was a girl and the other person either never got out of the car or stayed in the background. Donna wasn't sure if it was a male or a female, but they were definitely still a teenager. And Donna didn't think the person was older than 15 or 16. The officers questioned Sister Susan and her companions, but what transpired in this conversation is anyone's guess.

They were never officially arrested for anything and there was no evidence to suggest that anything nefarious had happened to Holly, Tina, and Dean. The car was registered to Donna, had no damage, and quite frankly, other than a wild story, there was no reason to arrest anyone for a crime. If there were any records taken about their questioning, those documents have since disappeared.

Again, the times frustrate me too. Everything still got processed on paper, no computers, and if it wasn't a super emergent case, then they probably never even filed anything at all. So now we don't even have names or identification to go on. But what about the two people that were with Sister Susan? If they were underage, then wouldn't police have reason to detain them?

I'm not sure why they didn't probe any further. We don't even know if they were taken to the station or if the officers just questioned them where they were on the tracks. What we did get from interviews with Dawn a years later was that Sister Susan took the lead. The other two barely said a word, and if they were asked a question, the sister silenced them with a stern glare. The sister reiterated that Dean and Tina had joined their group and that they wanted to cut ties with the outside world.

Their group was nomadic, one that traveled the country and lived off food stamps and donations. Dean had asked Sister Susan to return the car because it didn't belong to him and therefore wasn't his to give away. And unfortunately, that's all we got from that interaction. Donna's car was returned and the three robed individuals left.

Both Dean and Tina's families tried to file missing persons reports for their children and grandchild. But because the only item that could be considered a point of interest, the car, was returned in good condition. Dean and Tina had every right to run off with whoever they liked.

There were no signs of violence at their previous residence, no clues that they'd been taken against their will, and no reports from any of their acquaintances that anything was out of the ordinary before they went missing. And when two bodies of a young man and woman were found in Houston, Texas, 250 miles away from their residence in Lewisville, the connection to the young parents and their baby were never made. So John and Jane Doe remained unidentified.

for several years.

How could no one make that connection? mean, how many couples go missing together or turn up murdered together for that matter?

Remember, they were never officially filed as missing, so police had no missing persons to connect the bodies to. There was no child with them, so it made the cases even farther removed from one another. The discovery of the bodies was made right around that time that Donna got her car back, and they were told that the family was voluntarily not making contact with them. The bodies were located by a man and his dog out for a walk. The man's dog came out of the woods,

holding a human arm in its mouth.

Wow, so the dog came out with just a human arm? I mean, that's kind of gruesome.

It gets more depressing when you read the coroner's reports. Police even brought in an anthropologist to assist them in trying to figure out what the scene could tell them. According to the anthropologist, it looked like Tina was attacked first, and when Dean tried to defend her, he was bound and gagged. Tina's cause of death was strangulation, and Dean was beaten to death probably after his wife died.

They weren't able to determine if the couple were killed at the scene or if they were dumped there after they died, nor could they definitively give a time of death.

Decomposition was in its advanced stages, but they could have been there anywhere between two weeks and two months. Texas can get hot, even in January, but they were found under a canopy of trees, so it was cooler where they lay, complicating an accurate estimation.

The coroner leaned more toward them being dead for about two months,

He also referred to them as Romeo and Juliet, sure that they were a couple. Why else would Romeo be willing to die to protect Juliet? They had to be connected.

And even though decomposition was advanced enough that a canine could dislodge a limb in only a few seconds, their faces were still in good enough shape that composite sketches could be made of them. But Dean and Tina were only in Dallas for a few months. They barely had time to get to know a significant number of people. So it's not surprising that the sketches never shook any recollection of them loose.

Now we have a bit of a location and timeline problem. Logistically speaking, this is a nightmare. The extended family came down from Florida. Dean and Tina lived in Dallas, but according to Sister Susan, they were in Los Angeles with the cult. Yet their bodies were found all the way in Houston. Time -wise, we know communication stopped in October. They were probably killed around that time that Tina stopped writing the letters.

but there's no way to pinpoint anything exactly.

They could have been killed in a single event, or they could have been with their killers willingly or unwillingly for some time before their deaths. And no one, not the police or the families, were aware that there was a missing baby out there somewhere. However, for the time being at least, the Clouse's relatives had no choice but to hope that they truly were traveling with this religious sect and that they were safe, happy, and with this group of their own free will.

For the next 40 years, Romeo and Juliet lay buried, unnamed in the Houston Cemetery, and the Linn and Clouse families only had a handful of photographs and hopes of a miracle to content themselves with.

Both mothers were sure that their children would never disappear into the ether willingly, especially if it meant depriving them of knowing their granddaughter. Back when Romeo and Juliet were put to rest, their DNA was not preserved.

CODIS, the Victim in Criminal Database, was already being perfected, though it wouldn't be until 1994 before it was launched. Over the years, CODIS has been taking the DNA of each and every single sample in the storage across the USA and feeding it into the system one at a time.

As of now, there are nearly 30 million offenders, unidentified victims, and convicts in the system, and there are still hundreds of thousands, if not millions of samples, still waiting to be processed.

Most of them are victims who are buried in cemeteries across the country and their bodies need to be brought up in order to get a sample.

As you can imagine, this is a painstakingly slow process.

In 2011, permission was granted to exhume the bodies of a few dozen unidentified bodies buried in Houston. Romeo and Juliet were among the victims exhumed. Now the DNA was extracted, run through the system and added to the database, and there it sat for another decade.

Thanks to DNA ancestry kits, genealogy databases, and the ever expanding criminal DNA database, the well of genetic information out there is enough to map most of the US population even if you've never submitted your cheek swab anywhere.

All they need is one distant relative to make a connection, or a genealogist who's focused on one case in particular to make connections.

It's the same thing that happened to the Golden State Killer, just a genealogist with a sample that matched some far -off cousin that happened to get a kit for Christmas or managed to get arrested at one point or another.

There's a lot more to it than just a computer running comparisons in the background, there's still some elbow grease involved from the professionals to connect those family trees, but it will spare you the details.

A company called AudioChuck used donations to pay for two genealogists to take a look at Romeo and Juliet in 2021 and sure enough, Dean's DNA pinged to a cousin off the Clouse family.

From there they backtraced the genetic map until they reached Debbie, Dean's younger sister, who was by now a retired woman.

When one of the two genealogists called her up, thought it was a sick prank, but no, Romeo in fact was Harold Dean Clouse Jr. Unfortunately, the investigators' celebrations were short -lived because the first question out of Debbie's mouth was, where is Tina and the baby?

They were able to confirm Juliet as Tina almost immediately, but no one had ever had any inclination that Romeo and Juliet had a child. This was completely out of left field and it sparked a fire that only a missing child can ignite. There was now an official murder investigation and a missing child that could have been abducted, dumped, or murdered.

It took a year but baby Holly was found. Can you believe that?

I'm a little skeptical about the amount of personal information DNA makes available without your knowledge, and I'm all for the conspiracies behind 23andMe and Ancestry .com, but cases like these make it hard to be against it. Catching a Golden State Killer is a major, major win, but finding a missing baby 40 years after her parents were killed is nothing short of a miracle.

This is the kind of win that we rarely get.

to cover in this channel. What a relief.

Little Holly was dropped off at a church all the way in Arizona one month after Tina stopped writing letters and a month before the bodies were discovered. The pastor at the church, Philip McGoldrick, recalled the day that Holly was placed in his arms by two women. They were barefoot, wore white robes, and had Holly's birth certificate along with a letter that was signed by Dean and Tina Clouse.

waiving all parental rights to their daughter over to McGoldrick.

That's faked. But clarify this for me. It sounds like they named the pastor specifically as the one to take the

in the letter.

Yep, most likely a phoney letter. The pastor had seen the cult members in the area many times. He didn't know any of them by name but they often came to the church for shelter or supplies. McGoldrick and his wife were cleared as suspects by the police since they found Holly. So, they're not suspects. We need to be very clear about that and we'll get back to the cult a bit later.

For now though, the birth certificate proves that the killers had access to Clouse's house at the very least.

They told the preacher a similar story to what they told Donna, that the parents were a part of a religious group that gave up all their earthly possessions, but they added a new detail to the story this time. They said that giving up their possessions included any children and that men and women lived separate lives. So the parents would no longer be together under this belief system.

Holly was adopted by the McGoldricks and lived a normal life. When she was finally located she was a waitress, married for 20 years, mother of 5 children and grandmother of 2. Holly has been referred to only as Holly and not her adopted name.

Understandably, the media frenzy that a 40 -year -old missing child was finally found safe and sound was a huge infringement on her privacy, as well as her children, parents, and husbands. She sat down for an interview for Good Morning America and wrote a book about the case and her life, but she's never disclosed any personal details about her adopted name, where she lives, or any details that might lead people to find her

too easily. I mean, it's not hard to find her if you really tried, but she hasn't encouraged it, and I don't blame her.

When investigators called Holly to notify her that she was related to a pair of murder victims and that her relatives had never given up hope on finding her, she got on a Zoom call the same day and met her grandmothers and her aunt on her biological father's side. And to put the cherry on the cake, all this happened on June 7th, what would have been Dean's 63rd birthday.

The Lin and Clouse families got together in the woods where Dean and Tina's remains were found and held their own little vigil together. Finally able to say goodbye. And yes, they got to meet Holly for real soon after. It's overwhelming to see the moment that they finally got to see each other in real life for the first time. Holly looks so much like her mother. You know how families look alike. You can just -

that there's a cast to everyone's features when they stand next to each other.

The Linns have that, the shape of their faces, the reddish brown hair, you don't need a DNA test to tell they're all from the same family.

Holly was incredibly lucky to have been adopted almost as soon as she was left at the church. Most kids in that situation are drowned in the system. She is convinced that her biological family's prayers for her is what led her to a happy and stable life that she has been able to live.

And now we get to the investigation, or what little we know about it. This is an active investigation, so detectives aren't giving up a lot of information, especially since they're working with potential cult activity. So there's a lot that could go wrong if this wasn't handled just right. Starting with the Jesus movement that Dean was involved with briefly as a teenager. Charles McHugh, or Lightning Amen, as he liked to call himself,

I still can't get over the name. That's just wild. Yeah, well, he wasn't exactly the nicest guy either. Dean probably had nothing to do with Mr. Amen himself,

But I want to take a look at him to give you an example of the kind of religious cults in the area and what they got up to. And he's a perfect example of what you can expect from these groups. The Christ family was being led by an absolute tyrant. He encouraged drug use among his members, mostly to make them reliant on him to feed their uncontrollable addictions that were cultivated by the leader himself. Abuse, women that he kept...

on a constant circulating conveyor belt. You know the usual cult leader tactics. Let's have a look at some of the rules he had for the followers. And I'm just going to start calling him by his birth name again because Lightning Amen is just a little too rich for my taste.

I don't know man Lightning Amen got a ring to it.

Sounds like a name a celebrity would give their kid. I've heard of Apple, Majesty, and Audio Science. Usain Bolt named his kids Lightning and Thunder. Imagine if they go into sports like their father. The commentators will have a field day. There goes Lightning Bolt taking the lead.

Lightning Amen sure took to the lead with the insane rules he had his members follow. Wearing white robes and walking around barefoot was kind of their thing. And kids were another sore point for McHugh.

He thought of children as a liability. Lots of members gave their children up to the system or dropped them off at relatives so that they could continue being part of the Jesus People movement.

That's just terrible for the kids. Yeah, the members had to give up all their earthly possessions and kids were part of the package that they had to give up. Men and women were also segregated from one another.

That kind of sounds familiar. Any high ranking members called Sister Susan? That's where the problem comes in. Remember those offshoot groups that we talked about at the start? There are a lot of them still out there, mostly confined to the Midwest.

Even to the current day, they've removed themselves from society, keeping to privately owned homesteads and communes that seek to live self -sufficiently. They go by many names, Children of Christ, Christ Family, you get the gist. Some of them continued to follow McHugh's lead to the letter even after he was arrested for drug possession and crimes against children in 1987. But others broke off from the main branch and followed a similar path.

but not under McHugh's direct leadership. So they had a weird mix of some of his beliefs and some of their own. It's hard to say which group is which, and they're literally spread all over the Midwest. There's more of them than we can even really begin to tally up. Does he still have control of them from prison? He did for a while, but he died in 2010 when he was 72 years old. So the ones...

still in the cult are going by their own steam or another leader just took over. Police are obviously looking for Sister Susan. We're sure that the group that she prescribed to had been one of the ones that stayed closer to the original doctrine because she mentioned kids being given up and men and women living separately. And then there were the robes and the bare feet that were identical to McHugh's rule book. But there are so many out there and half of the people still in it from back in the day were

pretty deep into drugs so they don't remember much or they're too afraid to talk.

And I'm sure if the police do have a lead, I'm guessing they're not saying much

until they can make an arrest, right?

Or Sister Susan is dead by now. It was a long time ago. I don't know. Personally, I think that it was one of the major branches that they'd... or they would have found her by now. There were too many people that came into contact with for no one to remember a woman who was obviously in charge in some capacity.

But why would any of these groups kill a young couple anyway?

I mean, it's not like they had a lot of money and they weren't into drugs and neither had any real ties to the group. mean, Dean hung around with them back in the day but it's not like he was a member or anything.

The only real two theories out there is that someone Dean met back when he traveled with them for a few months ran into Dean or contacted him for some reason. When the two met, one of two things happened. Either Dean and Tina saw something they shouldn't have, like a drug deal or abuse going on, and then they were murdered because they were witness to a crime, or an acquaintance wanted Dean and his wife to join up.

they refused and a fight ensued resulting in their deaths.

If the anthropologist is correct that Dean tried to protect his wife, then there was almost certainly more than one person involved. She was strangled, he was beaten. Those are two very different methods of attack. And if it were Dean and Tina against just one person, it's unlikely that a single person could overpower the both of them. I think both these theories are equally likely.

So do I. Dean's connection to the Jesus movement is too much of a coincidence, but I don't think he was considering going back to the cult in any way. He probably made a friend back then and just wanted to make a social call to say hi, and if the amount of drugs and abuse were involved that's been reported, then anyone from the sect probably wasn't all that mentally stable either.

Things can go south real quick without any reason at all. But why return the car and take care of the baby? That just makes the crime traceable.

I think it's harder to kill an innocent baby than it is to kill an adult. And the car was just an easy way to swindle someone out of cash real quick, not unexpected for the group that's known to beg for money and donations.

This also leads into the theory that it was an unplanned attack. If it were ritualistic, I hate to even suggest it, but then Holly would have been the main target. So this double murder will probably never be solved unless someone can find Sister Susan to break the whole thing open or an ex -cult member that makes a sudden appearance with the information or makes a deathbed confession. But for once, there's a silver lining.

Baby Holly. Exactly. How often do we get to cover a case where there's a missing child that's been gone for half a century only to find out that she's still alive, safe, happy, and that her life ended up pretty amazing despite the horrific events that led her to being dropped off at a church in the first place?

She's reconnected with her biological family and Holly got to be adopted by remarkable people. Holly's got three families who love her more than anything in the world.

And the only way this could be more perfect is if she could know who killed her parents. 17 year old Tina and her 21 year old husband Dean, victims of a sick and vicious cult that possibly still has hundreds of members living out there. And there's no way to trace them at all.

But this case had quite a few miracles already. Let's hope that there's one more miracle left out there somewhere.

And that's where we leave our listeners with a whole lot of questions, but even more hope for this case to get the last push it needs so that Lynn, the Clouses, and Holly can finally get answers to what happened to Dean and Tina all those years ago.

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